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    How do I choose where should the pin be if i'm ordering online.. My pro shop which I made my balls did not tell me which is which and what is what.. He only sees the ball and ask his assistant to get another ball of the same type but different pin i guess... thats why i'm curious to know for future ordering online all this.. thanks

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    What is being referred to when ordering a ball online is Pin to CG distance.

    For most normal layouts you want Pin to CG distance between about 3" to 5". this will give the driller "room to work with" when laying out the ball.

    Look at the balls you have now, measure from the pin to the cg. That should give a good idea of the measurement for ordering.
    Last edited by bowl1820; 05-16-2012 at 10:03 AM.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    If a pin distance is too short (usually less than 2") or too long (more than 5") it is usually considered a "2nd quality" or "pro pin" ball because it limits your options as far as drilling for most bowlers and are less desirable. Typically most bowlers/drillers like working with a ball that has a 2-3" or 3-4" pin distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    What is being referred to when ordering a ball online is Pin to CG distance.

    For most normal layouts you want Pin to CG distance between about 3" to 5". this will give the driller "room to work with" when laying out the ball.

    Look at the balls you have now, measure from the pin to the cg. That should give a good idea of the measurement for ordering.
    468267_10150812601701762_670116761_9459854_1163391923_o.jpg

    dont mind tell me which is the CG for this ball.. The pin is 1 o clock of the finger plug i guess.. sry a noob here >_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene02 View Post
    468267_10150812601701762_670116761_9459854_1163391923_o.jpg

    dont mind tell me which is the CG for this ball.. The pin is 1 o clock of the finger plug i guess.. sry a noob here >_<
    The yellow dot by the fingers is the Pin.

    Finding the CG on a Lane 1 is a pain. There should be a little mark around the label.

    looking at your pic. Look at the "N" in the word lane, there's a little dot "." in the "N" that should be it. (if not its close enough)

    looks like maybe a 3"-4" Pin.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    The yellow dot by the fingers is the Pin.

    Finding the CG on a Lane 1 is a pain. There should be a little mark around the label.

    looking at your pic. Look at the "N" in the word lane, there's a little dot "." in the "N" that should be it. (if not its close enough)

    looks like maybe a 3"-4" Pin.
    okay.. imma measure it now... hold on a min while i grab my measuring tape!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    The yellow dot by the fingers is the Pin.

    Finding the CG on a Lane 1 is a pain. There should be a little mark around the label.

    looking at your pic. Look at the "N" in the word lane, there's a little dot "." in the "N" that should be it. (if not its close enough)

    looks like maybe a 3"-4" Pin.
    its a 3" - 4" pin..

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    1 more question.. what is the top weight??

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene02 View Post
    1 more question.. what is the top weight??
    Top weight is extra weight that is added to the ball to compensate for the weight removed by drilling the finger holes. the top weight of a undrilled balls can vary. 2-3oz top weight, or 3-4oz top weight are pretty common.

    If you have the org. boxes your other balls came in, just look on the label it should have it on there. That will give you a idea what range to get if they ask for a top weight.

    Example:
    A ball with a 3-4" pin and 2-3oz. of top weight. would work for most typical layouts.
    Last edited by bowl1820; 05-17-2012 at 07:24 AM.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Top weight is extra weight that is added to the ball to compensate for the weight removed by drilling the finger holes. the top weight of a undrilled balls can vary. 2-3oz top weight, or 3-4oz top weight are pretty common.

    If you have the org. boxes your other balls came in, just look on the label it should have it on there. That will give you a idea what range to get if they ask for a top weight.

    Example:
    A ball with a 3-4" pin and 2-3oz. of top weight. would work for most typical layouts.
    if i want a medium 15lb ball.. how much weight one should i get?

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