any ball can hook if we do it properly.. that's what i think.. but maybe 12 lbs is a little light to get consistant strikes? maybe some others can enlighten on that..
Hi ALL,
Cuurently i'm using 12.6 lbs Ebonite Cyclone.
I can see it hooks a bit. But if I want to improve my hook, can I use this ball?
I'm a beginner in hook. before I play spinner.
Please advice.
any ball can hook if we do it properly.. that's what i think.. but maybe 12 lbs is a little light to get consistant strikes? maybe some others can enlighten on that..
12 pound balls will leave 5 pins, and 8-10 splits more often on a nice pocket shot.
Most balls once they drop to 11 or 12 pound or less, change to just a generic core. It's said that once a ball gets below that weight, the hi-tech core doesn't make that much of a difference.
But If you watch there are some balls that do have the hi-tech core though, you just have to check.
As for weight you might should read this article by Ron Clifton.
Click here for "WHAT WEIGHT BALL? COULD 14 LBS BE YOUR "SWEET WEIGHT"?"
Last edited by bowl1820; 05-11-2012 at 07:29 AM.
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
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based on this, maybe biskutmarie can try the wrist test ron clifton suggests with a 14 lb ball to see if it's too heavy.. if not, then 14 lb would be best.. if it's too heavy, then maybe go with a 13 lb ball.. i just think 12 lb is too light..
There are a lot of variables in terms of your game, and what weight you can handle, which not getting into. Myself, I have several 15 lb balls, and a 13 lb (bought for $10 as experiment to play with different weight/drilling). it does not effect hook at all, but definitely carry. 13 lbs with good roll will carry pocked strikes as well as 15, but not light hits. 13 lbs may strike better coming in too high (but that' my game, where I've been playing), however light hits leave, 5 pins, and lots of 5 - 7 splits. dont know how much another pound lower will effect carry. But, as far hook, it's much easier to turn wrist around a lighter weight, so if anything it may give increased revs and more hook.
I see nothing wrong with learning how to hook with your Cyclone. I learned how to hook with my 13lb Cyclone. The Cyclone's core is designed to help bowlers learn how to hook. According to Ebonite's website all weights of the Cyclone have the same core. I recently got a much more agressive ball (Hammer Rhythm) but I still use my cyclone for drier lane conditions.
Arsenal: Hammer Rhythm Pin Up, Hammer Rhythm Pin Down, Hammer Spike Black/Blue, Ebonite MaximUSBC Sanctioned Average: 194High Game: 269High Series: 704
I have the utmost respect for Ron Clifton as a coach. He's a nice guy in general and I'd recommend attending the Gathering to have the opportunity to work with him for free. His clinics are worth every penny, too. The guy knows game. That being said, because of "political" considerations we won't be attending this year, but I will be sending the spinner I won this year as a prize for the Gathering.
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