What adjustment do you make for a 7 or 10 pin leave?
We all have had times where we throw our first ball of the frame we are bowling in and depending on if you are left or right handed you leave a 7 or 10 pin spare you have to pick up. If you are having one of those nights sometimes you can have a few of these in one game. If you are having this problem what kind of adjustment do you make to get rid of it? Do you move a whole board or a half board left or right to stop leaving the 7 or 10 pin or do you make a different adjustment? It seems like this happens because the ball came into the pocket at too small of an angle or hitting too light. So if you are left handed going after the 7 pin maybe a half board move to the left would put an end to this problem. I guess it would depend on what kind of ball you are using. Maybe instead of a approach adjustment a ball change would be the better choice. What is your strategy to solve this problem?
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If it's a ringing ten I don't do anything the first time. For a flat 10 I usually make forward/back adjustments the next time on the lane first before any type of lateral moves, same if I leave 2 ringing 10s in a row on a lane. Of course, it's all dependent on if you can repeat the same shot as well as (especially in a 5 man league) recognizing how the oil distribution will change, even from shot to shot - you have 10 people going before your next time up on that same lane.
[[ Right Hand Bowler ]] If I come up light twice I take a half step backward to get more lane, and put the ball down closer to the foul line. If I come up to high I take a half step forward to get the ball quicker to the pocket. As for making the 10 pin, I always place my left foot on the first dot to the left of the center. I set the ball down as close to the foul line as I can, place thumb on top of the ball and throw it over the 3rd dot at the foul line. I make an imaginary track from 3rd dot to the 10 pin and release. I use the foul line to spot release location and use the imaginary line technique to follow the path for both first shot and spare shot. Let me know if any of this helps you, or if you are currently using a similar technique.
As a right handed bowler I don't make an adjustment for a 7-pin leave unless I can tell that the ball hit weak or went too far through the nose.
For 10-pins I generally move my target/eyes closer to me. I don't change where I start my approach, that stays constant. But I start by focusing on a target at about 15ft (arrows) and if I leave a 10-pin I will move that target closer to me. I will generally only move it as close as the dots…and then make a lateral move with my feet. If it's a more pronounced miss that leaves the 10-pin, I may make a 1-board lateral move to the right rather than move my target/eyes closer…but generally just moving the target closer works okay.
Basically what mc_runner said, sound advice!!!
Bottom line for me, is to ask u Aslan u if u make 90%+ of single pin corner spares?? With only a single pin leave, find a system that works for u, and practise it, over and over...If u line up in same spot from strike ball to 7 pin spare, and it works, great, just be careful if u bowl on harder shots using the same line..
I think that the first thing that you need to do is to learn to recognize the difference between a flat ten and a ringing ten (seven pin for lefties). A flat ten is when the six pin lays down in the right gutter and plays dead. A ringing ten is when the six pin flies around the ten pin, but doesn't knock it over. Once you learn to see the difference, you can make the proper adjustment. I teach my students to move left into the oil when they leave weak tens, and a slight move right (no more than a single board with their feet) when they leave ringing tens. I discourage them from making forward/back adjustments as it has the potential to mess with timing that can cause more problems than it cures.
I think Rob hit it pretty much on the head here, I feel lateral moves are far more effective than moving forward or back on the approach due to creating possible timing issues and most of the time a board in either direction depending on the leave is enough to make a difference. I find that too many people (including myself sometimes) feel that every ball that hits the pocket should strike and they get upset when a pin is standing instead of trying to figure out why it was left. If you watch the ball roll through the pins and off the back of the deck it will tell you most all you need to know as to why a pin was left.Originally Posted by RobLV1
I say most all though because a situation left me puzzled last week during league and I wanted to know if anyone has faced this or may have an adjustment that can be made when you are leaving a ringing 7 pin as a right-hander. In game 3 I went x x 9/ x x 9/ x x 9/ 9/9 with 5 7 pin leaves where the ball left the pin deck right between the 8 and the 9 but the 4 pin wrapped around the neck of the 7 each time. 3 of the strikes also saw the 7 pin fall late after the 4 pin kicked it out off the wall so clearly something wasn't right but for the life of me I couldn't figure out what. My only thought was that I was coming in a pinch too high but I migrated further left into the oil each frame and each frame it was the same result. Any thoughts?
Mark O, what was your ball speed on those 7 pin shots. Typically when I leave a 7 it is due to a bit faster speed which for me equals a bit straighter as well.
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Leaving a bunch of stone sevens for a right-hander usually indicates one of two things: if it's on one lane, it's probably a bad rack, or, if it's on both lanes, indicates the need for a ball change to something that rolls just a little bit sooner.
I am not so incredibly consistent that moving for a 10 pin leave has much of an effect to cure that problem - unless I'm leaving 4-5 a game, I continue to hold my position. If I'm leaving them a lot, that indicates I'm coming into the pocket consistently at the wrong angle or hitting it it in the wrong spot. Then, and only then, will I move. Left for weak 10's, right a hair for ringers.
7 pins indicate I might not be getting into the roll correctly, but that's a rarity for me I usually see that happening before it becomes an issue. I don't leave them often, in fact it's very rare.
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