Definition Help: "Make-able Spare"

[Aslan]

Is there an actual definition of what a "makeable spare" is?

I'm assuming it's any leave that isn't a defined split?

So does that mean a 3-10 baby split is considered not "makeable" but a 1-2-4-10 washout IS considered "make-able"? Or is there an actual list/definition? Thanks.

[MICHAEL]

the definition of a make-able-spare in your case is: ???? maybe a 5 pin???? Nobody misses a 5 pin!!

[Aslan]

the definition of a make-able-spare in your case is: ???? maybe a 5 pin???? Nobody misses a 5 pin!!

Now that the "intelligence challenged" peanut gallery has weighed in....do we have anyone that actually knows the answer?

[MICHAEL]

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[bowl1820]

Is there an actual definition of what a "makeable spare" is?

I'm assuming it's any leave that isn't a defined split?

So does that mean a 3-10 baby split is considered not "makeable" but a 1-2-4-10 washout IS considered "make-able"? Or is there an actual list/definition? Thanks.

In a sense all spares are "makeable", it's just a matter of the degree of difficulty in making it.

But basically makeable spares are any non-split, non-washout pin combinations.

The 1-2-4-10 while called a washout is also technically a split. So wouldn't be a makeable spare

Note: There are two definitions of a washout.

Today it is basically anything that is a split with the headpin still standing is a washout.

A old one was if the headpin was standing it was a washout. So leaving just the head pin was technically a washout, A rail (the 1-2-4-7, 1-3-6-10) was a washout (But both are makeable spares)

[Aslan]

Thanks Bowl.

So you would say any spare that leaves a pin (or group) off on their own (like the 10 in a 1-2-4-10) would be a less "make-able" spare? So any split would fit that definition, even the baby split. And that would take out most of the big washouts as well.

But, a 1-2-4 or a 1-2-4-7...despite sort of being washouts...those would be considered "make-able".

The reason I'm asking is; one of the stats I saw online was a calculation involving not just your spare pick-up rate...but your pick-up rate of "make-able apsares". I think that obviously takes splits out of the equation...but wasn't sure if there was an actual definition of "make-able spare" that I wasn't aware of.

I'll try to ask the author of the article and see if he responds. I doubt it, but maybe I'll get lucky.

[bowl1820]

Thanks Bowl.

So you would say any spare that leaves a pin (or group) off on their own (like the 10 in a 1-2-4-10) would be a less "make-able" spare? So any split would fit that definition, even the baby split. And that would take out most of the big washouts as well.

A split is a split, so wouldn't be considered a "Makeable" spare.

(Of course Splits are divided into makeable (ex: the 3-10, 2-4-8-10 are considered makeable splits) and non makeable splits (Unmakeable splits are splits where the pins are parallel to the foul line ex. 2-3, 4-6, 7-10)

But, a 1-2-4 or a 1-2-4-7...despite sort of being washouts...those would be considered "make-able".

Yes

[RobLV1]

I've never seen an actual definition, but I would guess it would be any pin combination that is not a split or a washout. In terms of being makeable, virtually any spare is makeable, it's just a matter of the percentage that it is actually converted. Once you take out the splits and washouts, everything else is converted a majority of the time, with the dinner bucket and the 3-6-9-10 being the most difficult, though still makeable.

[Blacksox1]

Disclaimer; my thoughts only, not proven to be 100 percent correct. If when rolling your spare ball it can hit every pin remaining from the first shot. I then consider it make-able. Example, the 3-10, the left side of the ball hits the 3, the right side of the ball hits the 10.

[Mike White]

Disclaimer; my thoughts only, not proven to be 100 percent correct. If when rolling your spare ball it can hit every pin remaining from the first shot. I then consider it make-able. Example, the 3-10, the left side of the ball hits the 3, the right side of the ball hits the 10.

If you foul on the first ball, would that be a makable spare?

I seriously doubt you can hit all 10 pins with the ball.