What mid-range (somewhere around $150) bowling ball would you buy right now?

[Hendu71]

I'm looking for something that performs well on medium to wet lanes.

[ALazySavage]

Before you start getting flooded with all brands of bowling balls lets get some information about your current arsenal:

1. What other equipment are you currently throwing?
2. Do you know your rev rate? How about your ball speed?
3. How does your current equipment react on this condition? Does it react too late, does it not hook enough, etc.?
4. What do you want the ball to do on the Medium/Wet lanes? Are you trying to cover a lot of boards or play it straight up?

[Hendu71]

I'm using a new ebonite crush/r. This is (from what I understand) a rebadge of the ebonite cyclone, made for Dick's Sporting goods.

I get very little to no hook with this thing on wet lanes.

Medium it's okay-ish.

It's terrible for dry.

My ball speed is approx 14MPH.

Rev rate I don't know yet.

On wet lanes I want it to cover a lot of boards. I don't want it to be excessive on medium however.

[Aslan]

Most every ball is stronger than the Ebonite Cyclone. And most every ball can be had for $150 or less.

Take a look at Ebonite's website if you like that brand. The Cyclone is entry level...try a ball from the next level up or 2 levels up.

Odds are you won't see a huge amount of difference without improving your release, rather than the ball; but it's worth a try if ya got the dough. Just don't get your hopes up too high.

[YODA]

I would recommend DV8 balls, but thats because I like them :) Out of their lineup the Rude Dude, Endless Nightmare, and the Brutal Nightmare :)

[Blacksox1]

I'm looking for something that performs well on medium to wet lanes.

A lot of good info on bowlingball.com

[Stormed1]

Motiv Venom Sgock. It;s the most versatile ball I;ve thrown in a long time

[Amyers]

There are a lot of good balls out there and in most areas can be had for less than $150 I would talk with a pro shop and get some recommendations based on your game after they have watched you throw some balls.

[Hendu71]

Thanks for the input people. I've heard good things about the Rotogrip Totally Defiant. The Hammer Bad A$$ seems to be an 'it' ball right now too. Any opinions on this?

I'm not married to any particular brand. Nor do I want to spend money just to spend money. Just interested to see something that performs well in heavy oil. My current ball's sweet spot seems to be somewhere between light and medium.

[Amyers]

The Totally Defiant is asymmetric I usually don't suggest those to people who have not developed a very consistent release. I'm not sure where you are with that also that's a big jump from your Cyclone. I would suggest maybe looking at a Rotogrip Hysteria, Asylum, Disturbed or Brunswick Melee Cross or Jab all of these are symmetrical cores and maybe easier to handle.

[rv driver]

The Totally Defiant is asymmetric I usually don't suggest those to people who have not developed a very consistent release. I'm not sure where you are with that also that's a big jump from your Cyclone. I would suggest maybe looking at a Rotogrip Hysteria, Asylum, Disturbed or Brunswick Melee Cross or Jab all of these are symmetrical cores and maybe easier to handle.
I was looking at the Melee Cross. Looks like a good ball!

[Hendu71]

The Totally Defiant is asymmetric I usually don't suggest those to people who have not developed a very consistent release. I'm not sure where you are with that also that's a big jump from your Cyclone. I would suggest maybe looking at a Rotogrip Hysteria, Asylum, Disturbed or Brunswick Melee Cross or Jab all of these are symmetrical cores and maybe easier to handle.I like what I like what I'm reading about the Hysteria.

[Aslan]

I would say...either a Brunswick Edge II...or a Storm Crux.

But the Crux might be more than $150 because it smells like a fruit or something. The Edge II just smells like an old man's coat closet.

[larry mc]

radical guru is the best heavy oil ball out there

[RobLV1]

I would say...either a Brunswick Edge II...or a Storm Crux.

But the Crux might be more than $150 because it smells like a fruit or something. The Edge II just smells like an old man's coat closet.

The Brunswick Edge II was a urethane ball that was produced in 1983! It would probably cost more than $150 just as a curiosity/collectors item.

[YODA]

Thanks for the input people. I've heard good things about the Rotogrip Totally Defiant. The Hammer Bad A$$ seems to be an 'it' ball right now too. Any opinions on this?

I'm not married to any particular brand. Nor do I want to spend money just to spend money. Just interested to see something that performs well in heavy oil. My current ball's sweet spot seems to be somewhere between light and medium.

The Hammer Bad A$$ is a "it" ball because it just dropped :) It performs really well in Medium Oil, but I would not recommend it for really heavy oil.

[Perrin]

Without knowing the specifics of your delivery it's hard to recommend anything.
But in my experience picking up one of last years releases is a financially sound decision :)

You can get some of last years $200 balls for 125-175 if you work with your pro-shop and aren't too specific when it comes to brand. We have one proshop here that will take equipment as trade-in and resell it pretty inexpensively once re-drilled.

[Aslan]

The Brunswick Edge II was a urethane ball that was produced in 1983! It would probably cost more than $150 just as a curiosity/collectors item.

Shhh…

I always answer these questions ridiculously because at the end of the day they are ridiculous questions.

1) Balls don't matter much. Get one that it is round and reactive and you're good.
2) Improvement of a release or swing…HUGELY more impactful than buying a new $150 ball. HUGELY!!

So…it DOESN'T MATTER. But rather than say all that…I just recommend random balls…which is about as helpful as everyone else recommending balls they "like".

[Perrin]

Shhh…

I always answer these questions ridiculously because at the end of the day they are ridiculous questions.

1) Balls don't matter much. Get one that it is round and reactive and you're good.
2) Improvement of a release or swing…HUGELY more impactful than buying a new $150 ball. HUGELY!!

So…it DOESN'T MATTER. But rather than say all that…I just recommend random balls…which is about as helpful as everyone else recommending balls they "like".

for #1 it depends on how you throw the ball as to how much the ball matters. for me, being very rev dominant.... believe me the ball matters

#2 I agree throwing the ball better will help more than anything you can buy unless you're trying to throw plastic on 26 units or something crazy like that :)

[Hendu71]

Aslan, I find it very hard to believe that the difference between an ebonite cyclone and roto-grip hysteria is negligible. I know you didn't exactly say that, but saying the ball you use"doesn't matter" kind of implies that. I mean, yeah, if you're throwing them in the gutter, it's negligible, and of course form matters, but if the ball "didn't matter" wouldn't everybody be throwing cheap-o balls and not messing around with surface adjustments?

[Aslan]

Aslan, I find it very hard to believe that the difference between an ebonite cyclone and roto-grip hysteria is negligible. I know you didn't exactly say that, but saying the ball you use"doesn't matter" kind of implies that. I mean, yeah, if you're throwing them in the gutter, it's negligible, and of course form matters, but if the ball "didn't matter" wouldn't everybody be throwing cheap-o balls and not messing around with surface adjustments?

How does one ball matter more than another?

1) Coverstock

Okay...what about all the other stuff like cores, RG, etc..???

Throw a ball end over end. ANY ball. It will sorta roll straight down the lane. Now throw a more expensive ball end over end... Guess what? They did the same thing. One cost $75 and the other $225. And they did the EXACT same thing.

"But I don't throw end over end!! I throw [insert style]!!"

Okay...then what is your rev rate? You don't know? Then go find out. Because the smaller the number...the closer the ball will be to doing that end over end thing...and the LESS the difference from one ball to another. The GREATER the rev rate...the MORE difference you'll see.

"But what if I have a high rev rate? Then what ball should I get?"

Again, it doesn't matter. If you're having trouble getting the ball back to the pocket with a high rev rate...then you need to change the line you're playing. If you don't want to do that...and you're "building an arsenal"...then okay...you'll either want a ball that hooks sooner or later....etc... There's a whole bunch of things you'll want to take into consideration...and once you do...you'll have like 20-30 different possible balls that will meet your needs.

But see...THAT isn't what most people are looking for when they start a "what ball should I buy" thread. They don't want numbers or physics or situational explanations. They want someone to say, "Either a Brunswick Edge II or a Storm Crux...probably the Crux because it smells like a pomegranate."

Yes...balls matter. But they are absolutely limited by the person throwing them. Thats why the ball doesn't roll strikes while sitting in a box. For a BEGINNER...a STROKER...someone lets say < 130 average...the ball doesn't really matter. Actually, getting a really aggressive ball is probably a BAD idea because it'll magnify the problems with your release. I know this first hand. My Encounters are probably the least useful balls in my bag...because my release is too inconsistent to take advantage of their more powerful cores, more assymetric cores. I don't even really advocate a person getting a SPARE ball until they have a 150 average. I personally think there's some advantage to a new bowler learning lateral adjustments.

[samdasham]

I'm probably the last person on this forum that you should consider for advice. Howevah, I was in your shoes just a few weeks ago. I wanted to move up in a ball. My limited research sez all the brands are alike more or less. Everybody has entry/mid-level/top shelf balls that perform similar to the other guys cahones.

I snooped around lookin' for deals and settled on one manufacturer. I found a chart on their products over the last few years and picked three different models w/one 16 & two 15 pounders. The oldest model was 70 clams and the two more recent were 90 each.

The older 16 is very close in specs, same hook one a bit more/less in length, to one of the 15's and the other 15 exhibits considerably more hook than those. I'm not suggestion you go out and buy three, but for around 150 simoleons I can buy two.

It should come as no surprise that the one that hooks the most is identical in performance specs as a brand new model that's on the same chart. I have to slowly move my mouse over the edge of the new offering to pull up my "old" NOS ball lurking behind. That new ball sells for $145, so I roughly saved right at 40% by going w/NOS. The balls I bought were sale items that have gone back up to 125-150. They'll fall again though at times close-outs are limited in available weights.

The cores are still on the floor in cardboard as I've yet to find my grip w/proverbial sweet spot. And they'll stay there whilst I continue to bowl, having adjustments made to my old Blue Light urethane special from the last century, until through trial/error & even more pluggin'/drillin' I find the comfortable/versatile grip that suits moi.

Then I'll have them all drilled alike and be able to make an evaluation of them against my style of delivery. As plenty of others way more qualified than I have stated previously, there isn't a nickle's worth of difference in last year's model save the price you pay and that's significant.

[Amyers]

How does one ball matter more than another?

1) Coverstock

Okay...what about all the other stuff like cores, RG, etc..???

Throw a ball end over end. ANY ball. It will sorta roll straight down the lane. Now throw a more expensive ball end over end... Guess what? They did the same thing. One cost $75 and the other $225. And they did the EXACT same thing.

"But I don't throw end over end!! I throw [insert style]!!"

Okay...then what is your rev rate? You don't know? Then go find out. Because the smaller the number...the closer the ball will be to doing that end over end thing...and the LESS the difference from one ball to another. The GREATER the rev rate...the MORE difference you'll see.

"But what if I have a high rev rate? Then what ball should I get?"

Again, it doesn't matter. If you're having trouble getting the ball back to the pocket with a high rev rate...then you need to change the line you're playing. If you don't want to do that...and you're "building an arsenal"...then okay...you'll either want a ball that hooks sooner or later....etc... There's a whole bunch of things you'll want to take into consideration...and once you do...you'll have like 20-30 different possible balls that will meet your needs.

But see...THAT isn't what most people are looking for when they start a "what ball should I buy" thread. They don't want numbers or physics or situational explanations. They want someone to say, "Either a Brunswick Edge II or a Storm Crux...probably the Crux because it smells like a pomegranate."

Yes...balls matter. But they are absolutely limited by the person throwing them. Thats why the ball doesn't roll strikes while sitting in a box. For a BEGINNER...a STROKER...someone lets say < 130 average...the ball doesn't really matter. Actually, getting a really aggressive ball is probably a BAD idea because it'll magnify the problems with your release. I know this first hand. My Encounters are probably the least useful balls in my bag...because my release is too inconsistent to take advantage of their more powerful cores, more assymetric cores. I don't even really advocate a person getting a SPARE ball until they have a 150 average. I personally think there's some advantage to a new bowler learning lateral adjustments.

Wow Aslan something about a ball from you that I somewhat agree with!!! You are correct it is different from bowler to bowler most people should start with entry level to lower mid-level equipment. On the spare ball it really depends on how much movement they get on the ball, If you have enough movement that even standing far to the left and throwing back across the ball is still hooking away from the ten pin you need plastic. My wife before her wrist injury was up to averaging about 150 she kept asking me about a spare ball since I have one. My wife maybe hooks the ball 5 boards on dry lanes. I kept asking why do you need one. They are both just going to go straight.

[manke]

Aslan I am surprised that your not a 200 average bowler with all your knowledge of balls and bowling!! The guy is just trying to figure things out. I do not know why everyone on here are asses all the time.

[Aslan]

Aslan I am surprised that your not a 200 average bowler with all your knowledge of balls and bowling!! The guy is just trying to figure things out. I do not know why everyone on here are asses all the time.

I'm surprised too manke. But...I guess I gotta wait for my skills to catch up with my knowledge.

And I'm not bashing the guy. I AM trying to help him out.

Do you think me telling him to buy a Rotogrip Outcry is "being helpful"?? How is it helpful? I've never seen him throw a ball...I know nothing about his game other than the small bit of information he mentioned. I have NO IDEA what ball he should buy. The difference between me and everyone else is I say THAT...instead of telling him to buy Brunswick because I personally like Brunswick.
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It's not being a 'donkey'...it's being honest and not just throwing out a stupid opinion that at the end of the day costs him $150 and he gets likely nothing out of it.

I don't care either way. There's a nice price on a Meanstreak Beatdown on BowlerX and a nice price on a Fortera Exile on bowlingball.com. Someone also mentioned a good deal on a Brunswick Mastermind on Bowlersmart. All aggressive balls in his price point. There...I just saved him a google search. Will that help him? I don't know. Is that a more "manke approved" response??

[Mike White]

Aslan I am surprised that your not a 200 average bowler with all your knowledge of balls and bowling!! The guy is just trying to figure things out. I do not know why everyone on here are asses all the time.

You're confusing knowledge and opinion.

[Aslan]

You're confusing knowledge and opinion.

Theres no need to correct the man! I like his wording.

[samdasham]

was up to averaging about 150 she kept asking me about a spare ball since I have one. My wife maybe hooks the ball 5 boards on dry lanes. I kept asking why do you need one. They are both just going to go straight.

I have to respectfully disagree. Regardless, if she alters grip/approach/backswing/weight or not, psychologically the spare ball becomes the needed cog in the clockwork. It isn't merely a ball it is THE spare ball. It's the Billy Baroo you reach for when in a tight spot and the game hinges on one shot.

It isn't going to go straight as the other ball. It will go straighter to picking up a spare. Your reasoning is sound and resonates w/others of similar ilk and skill. However, it belongs not unto her. Why do you force your stoic logic on your better half that strives to peer beyond the boundaries of your box?

As children we needed a hat/holster/cap gun to become the cowboy. A different colour transforms us into the good or bad guy. All she needed was a ball. Not just any ole ball, but a spare ball. She wants an arsenal that contains a spare ball that she can believe in/count on/have faith that it will roll straighter to the mark than the regular ball.

[Hendu71]

Thanks samdasham, I honestly never thought about it as year models like cars before. Great tip. Problem is, it's hard for me to make direct comparisons between bowling balls, whenever they were made.

The only manufacturer website that I find GREAT at making comparisons with is Roto Grip, even if it is only against their own balls. That graphical comparison overlay for how they handle the lanes is sweet. Can I do that with Ebonite, of which I own two balls? Nope...

And I did appreciate the advice on avoiding asymmetrical at my level. Once explained, it made sense.

[Amyers]

I have to respectfully disagree. Regardless, if she alters grip/approach/backswing/weight or not, psychologically the spare ball becomes the needed cog in the clockwork. It isn't merely a ball it is THE spare ball. It's the Billy Baroo you reach for when in a tight spot and the game hinges on one shot.

It isn't going to go straight as the other ball. It will go straighter to picking up a spare. Your reasoning is sound and resonates w/others of similar ilk and skill. However, it belongs not unto her. Why do you force your stoic logic on your better half that strives to peer beyond the boundaries of your box?

As children we needed a hat/holster/cap gun to become the cowboy. A different colour transforms us into the good or bad guy. All she needed was a ball. Not just any ole ball, but a spare ball. She wants an arsenal that contains a spare ball that she can believe in/count on/have faith that it will roll straighter to the mark than the regular ball.

Sam this was well though out and in a lot of ways you are correct. My wife does suffer from bowlingballitis in its most dangerous form where she believes she the next ball away from being a better bowler but I am a big fan of believing in your equipment. In reality the difference between her throwing her Tropical Breeze at spare or a plastic ball at a spare is nil but If she believes their is a difference it could make a difference I'll think about it.

[Amyers]

Thanks samdasham, I honestly never thought about it as year models like cars before. Great tip. Problem is, it's hard for me to make direct comparisons between bowling balls, whenever they were made.

The only manufacturer website that I find GREAT at making comparisons with is Roto Grip, even if it is only against their own balls. That graphical comparison overlay for how they handle the lanes is sweet. Can I do that with Ebonite, of which I own two balls? Nope...

And I did appreciate the advice on avoiding asymmetrical at my level. Once explained, it made sense.

For your first one pick any entry level to mid level ball you like the looks of and throw it. The differences between balls doesn't really become apparent until you reach a relatively high level of bowling anyway and if you become one of those of us addicted to the sport your going to have multiple balls anyways. I do agree avoid asymmetrical balls until you really get your release down pat and I would lean more towards balls geared towards medium oil as that is what you will see on the lane most of the time.

[samdasham]

It's my understanding that Track has been under the Ebonite umbrella for a bit. Here's a link from a monthly bowling mag that could prove helpful.

http://www.bowlingthismonth.com/ball-manufacturer/track/

At the bottom is a graph and on the bottom right of the graph you'll see the new LX05. Move your mouse to the edge back & forth at it reveals the earlier 706T lurking in the shadows. They aren't exact duplicates, but it's close enough for a guy as myself that wouldn't be able to distinguish the least amount of difference. I'm nowhere near skilled enough, so the older more economical ball is the best fit for me.
[The 706T has an asymmetrical core and I offer this merely as an example. Please do not confuse my misguided odyssey w/your search for improvement as I'm quite mad requiring professional help.]

BowlerX and Buddies Pro Shop are competitive in closeouts w/Bowling/Bowlingball though the former doesn't seem to have the inventory of the latter. Do your research whilst attempting to avoid the mental gridlock paralysis by analysis.

Folks that are qualified, I'm not one, can tell you over and over, but until you purchase that ball and bowl w/it you are not going to fully appreciate their sound advice. Instead of looking perhaps for a particular manufacturer/model you might snoop around and see what is available for no more than 90 clams that came out in the last few years. You might consider going a pound lighter as a ball, that if nothing else, to go to if fatigued or to use as a warm up ball. If you buy a NOS mid-range ball for around 70 simoleons what if it doesn't do anything that your current ball does? I consider it an inexpensive expenditure and part of the learning curve.

I bought three and if the cheapest/older ball at $70 proves to work as well as the newer, yet still NOS, 90 buck balls it will come as no surprise. Still, I feel I've done my homework, to the best of my ability, and have eased in waist deep from the wading pool instead of blindly diving into the deep end. YMMV Good luck.

ETA Ameyers: The magic slipper only fits Cinderella, yet every gal wishes to go to the ball in the horse drawn carriage and feel as if she is the one. My best games are when I'm wore smooth out. I cannot overcompensate/steer the ball. I ignore the arrows and focus on the pins. Mentally I know where I want to place the ball. I let go of my reasoning no longer overriding the controls. I hurl my ball w/confidence as a caveman chunking a spear for dinner. Sometimes I'm caught up in repetition trying to deduce progress when I just need to let go and bowl.

Anywho, everyone needs an arsenal and the sweet part is it only takes two. Unless one of those show improvement and then the quest to grasp the brass ring continues.

[manke]

Mike White has forgot more about bowling than i will never know. He is the RULER of bowingboards.com. He knows all. LOL

[Aslan]

As children we needed a hat/holster/cap gun to become the cowboy. A different colour transforms us into the good or bad guy. All she needed was a ball. Not just any ole ball, but a spare ball. She wants an arsenal that contains a spare ball that she can believe in/count on/have faith that it will roll straighter to the mark than the regular ball.

All of that fancy 1500s speak doesn't make a 130 bowler a 170 bowler because they got a ball to go a hair straighter. Thats nonsense Charles Dickens.

And sure, maybe her getting a shiny new ball will make her psychologically feel like a "cowboy" and thus become more like a "cowboy". But for every example of that 'magic'...there are 40 idiots that buy a new ball every 3 weeks looking for 'magic' and all they do is get frustrated because their fancy ball isn't doing what it does in the video when Chris Barnes or Brian Voss throws it.

Welcome to reality. Or shall I say, "Welcome youeth, to thus reality...may it resonate non-stoically."

[samdasham]

All of that fancy 1500s speak doesn't make a 130 bowler a 170 bowler because they got a ball to go a hair straighter. Thats nonsense Charles Dickens.

And sure, maybe her getting a shiny new ball will make her psychologically feel like a "cowboy" and thus become more like a "cowboy". But for every example of that 'magic'...there are 40 idiots that buy a new ball every 3 weeks looking for 'magic' and all they do is get frustrated because their fancy ball isn't doing what it does in the video when Chris Barnes or Brian Voss throws it.

Welcome to reality. Or shall I say, "Welcome youeth, to thus reality...may it resonate non-stoically."

Well, chicken little comes out of his shell to profess the sky is falling on hopes of picking up a few pins w/new ball purchased as a spare. For starters you attempt to engage me, rather clumsily I might add, by announcing the ridiculousness of an entry level player to achieve over a thirty percent increase in score merely by purchasing THE, apparently magic, spare ball.

No ****e Sherlock. There is nothing astounding in your meager deduction. Though I find it quaint that you pulled forty pins out of your arse in order to substantiate the validity of your less than brilliant conclusion. Then into the mix you throw in the ability of a couple of pros that I'm sure could fairly well wipe the floor w/most using rubber balls out of Dick Weber's artifacts.

I'm not a midway barker hawking moonbeams, dreams or magic beans. Nor am I providing prayer cloths that through minimum donation/seed offering will generate ungodly returns beyond your wildest theological dreams. I suggested hope of marginal success for minimal investment. Substantiated on my understanding of the situation. On that premise I base my case on the power of positive thinking, faith, belief and confidence to pick up a few pins w/new ball exclusively used on spares. Certainly nothing as brash or asinine as anything near forty. Yet I did find it entertaining that you sidled up to that tidbit as your anchor of argument.

Well, that and painting me as a Svengali possibly capable of projecting transcendental kinetic energy to struggling bowlers at will mentally guiding them to higher scores. Your Cliff's Notes version of my comments was regaled, "Buy another pick up forty". You seem a wee bit jaded and bitter. Perhaps your acidic tongue retains the foul aftertaste of disappointment from having purchased too many balls to no avail save fail.

I hear your cry into the wilderness unto me for guidance and am moved. You would most likely benefit more from picking up a forty of malt liquor and proceeding to the local massage parlour for THS. Should that prove too much weight for your delicate frame perhaps a mimosa and goat cheese quiche to drown your drama laden sorrows.

As her partner Amyers, through purchase and encouragement, could boost her will to improve, her belief in herself, her ability and him. So he drops a few bucks on her wishes. Even if her score doesn't improve all I see is a win/win. What do you see in your future other than my dominate skills surpassing your measly average?

[Amyers]

Well, chicken little comes out of his shell to profess the sky is falling on hopes of picking up a few pins w/new ball purchased as a spare. For starters you attempt to engage me, rather clumsily I might add, by announcing the ridiculousness of an entry level player to achieve over a thirty percent increase in score merely by purchasing THE, apparently magic, spare ball.

No ****e Sherlock. There is nothing astounding in your meager deduction. Though I find it quaint that you pulled forty pins out of your arse in order to substantiate the validity of your less than brilliant conclusion. Then into the mix you throw in the ability of a couple of pros that I'm sure could fairly well wipe the floor w/most using rubber balls out of Dick Weber's artifacts.

I'm not a midway barker hawking moonbeams, dreams or magic beans. Nor am I providing prayer cloths that through minimum donation/seed offering will generate ungodly returns beyond your wildest theological dreams. I suggested hope of marginal success for minimal investment. Substantiated on my understanding of the situation. On that premise I base my case on the power of positive thinking, faith, belief and confidence to pick up a few pins w/new ball exclusively used on spares. Certainly nothing as brash or asinine as anything near forty. Yet I did find it entertaining that you sidled up to that tidbit as your anchor of argument.

Well, that and painting me as a Svengali possibly capable of projecting transcendental kinetic energy to struggling bowlers at will mentally guiding them to higher scores. Your Cliff's Notes version of my comments was regaled, "Buy another pick up forty". You seem a wee bit jaded and bitter. Perhaps your acidic tongue retains the foul aftertaste of disappointment from having purchased too many balls to no avail save fail.

I hear your cry into the wilderness unto me for guidance and am moved. You would most likely benefit more from picking up a forty of malt liquor and proceeding to the local massage parlour for THS. Should that prove too much weight for your delicate frame perhaps a mimosa and goat cheese quiche to drown your drama laden sorrows.

As her partner Amyers, through purchase and encouragement, could boost her will to improve, her belief in herself, her ability and him. So he drops a few bucks on her wishes. Even if her score doesn't improve all I see is a win/win. What do you see in your future other than my dominate skills surpassing your measly average?

LOL This made me laugh!!! But in reality Sam you better be putting your big boy pants on if you plan to challenge Aslan on the lanes.

[Perrin]

Well, chicken little comes out of his shell to profess the sky is falling on hopes of picking up a few pins w/new ball purchased as a spare. For starters you attempt to engage me, rather clumsily I might add, by announcing the ridiculousness of an entry level player to achieve over a thirty percent increase in score merely by purchasing THE, apparently magic, spare ball.

No ****e Sherlock. There is nothing astounding in your meager deduction. Though I find it quaint that you pulled forty pins out of your arse in order to substantiate the validity of your less than brilliant conclusion. Then into the mix you throw in the ability of a couple of pros that I'm sure could fairly well wipe the floor w/most using rubber balls out of Dick Weber's artifacts.

I'm not a midway barker hawking moonbeams, dreams or magic beans. Nor am I providing prayer cloths that through minimum donation/seed offering will generate ungodly returns beyond your wildest theological dreams. I suggested hope of marginal success for minimal investment. Substantiated on my understanding of the situation. On that premise I base my case on the power of positive thinking, faith, belief and confidence to pick up a few pins w/new ball exclusively used on spares. Certainly nothing as brash or asinine as anything near forty. Yet I did find it entertaining that you sidled up to that tidbit as your anchor of argument.

Well, that and painting me as a Svengali possibly capable of projecting transcendental kinetic energy to struggling bowlers at will mentally guiding them to higher scores. Your Cliff's Notes version of my comments was regaled, "Buy another pick up forty". You seem a wee bit jaded and bitter. Perhaps your acidic tongue retains the foul aftertaste of disappointment from having purchased too many balls to no avail save fail.

I hear your cry into the wilderness unto me for guidance and am moved. You would most likely benefit more from picking up a forty of malt liquor and proceeding to the local massage parlour for THS. Should that prove too much weight for your delicate frame perhaps a mimosa and goat cheese quiche to drown your drama laden sorrows.

As her partner Amyers, through purchase and encouragement, could boost her will to improve, her belief in herself, her ability and him. So he drops a few bucks on her wishes. Even if her score doesn't improve all I see is a win/win. What do you see in your future other than my dominate skills surpassing your measly average?



This reminds me of epic rap battles on youtube... a partially archaic english verbal slap to the face...

Let's just call it a difference of opinion :)

[Aslan]

LOL This made me laugh!!! But in reality Sam you better be putting your big boy pants on if you plan to challenge Aslan on the lanes.

I can't even read that nonsense. It's like reading a post my noeymc or striker where they have some "thesaurus app" activated so every mispelled word turns into some archaic synonym.

It's gotta be intentional...because nobody...definitely nobody from the state of Arkansas...speaks like that. If it was a word here or there (to or fro)...then okay...maybe it's a guy with a big vocabulary and he likes to use fancy words once in awhile. But when it's every sentence...it's either an app or he got a new thesaurus from Santa...which would honestly be a disappointing Christmas gift.

I'll argue all day long if he wants to (and Bowl1820 tolerates it)...but not if reading his post is like reading some Shakespearian sonnet. I mean, it's like the reading the bible. I read through it and think, "Well, I'm sure that means something important...but I'm not interested enough to really explore what in God's name that means."

And who does that impress. Listen man...there's like 4 girls on this site and 3 of them are married. I don't know if the other one is impressed by someone that has an intimate relationship with a dictionary or not...but thats a lot of work to pick up one potential girl...who only logs in about 14 times a year to win a ball contest.

Tone it down John Quincy Adams. Save that app for Google chat or a lesbian poetry night or something.

[fortheloveofbowling]

If you are going to be a bowler you can't reference things like goat cheese quiche or mimosa.

[rv driver]

Well, chicken little comes out of his shell to profess the sky is falling on hopes of picking up a few pins w/new ball purchased as a spare. For starters you attempt to engage me, rather clumsily I might add, by announcing the ridiculousness of an entry level player to achieve over a thirty percent increase in score merely by purchasing THE, apparently magic, spare ball.

No ****e Sherlock. There is nothing astounding in your meager deduction. Though I find it quaint that you pulled forty pins out of your arse in order to substantiate the validity of your less than brilliant conclusion. Then into the mix you throw in the ability of a couple of pros that I'm sure could fairly well wipe the floor w/most using rubber balls out of Dick Weber's artifacts.

I'm not a midway barker hawking moonbeams, dreams or magic beans. Nor am I providing prayer cloths that through minimum donation/seed offering will generate ungodly returns beyond your wildest theological dreams. I suggested hope of marginal success for minimal investment. Substantiated on my understanding of the situation. On that premise I base my case on the power of positive thinking, faith, belief and confidence to pick up a few pins w/new ball exclusively used on spares. Certainly nothing as brash or asinine as anything near forty. Yet I did find it entertaining that you sidled up to that tidbit as your anchor of argument.

Well, that and painting me as a Svengali possibly capable of projecting transcendental kinetic energy to struggling bowlers at will mentally guiding them to higher scores. Your Cliff's Notes version of my comments was regaled, "Buy another pick up forty". You seem a wee bit jaded and bitter. Perhaps your acidic tongue retains the foul aftertaste of disappointment from having purchased too many balls to no avail save fail.

I hear your cry into the wilderness unto me for guidance and am moved. You would most likely benefit more from picking up a forty of malt liquor and proceeding to the local massage parlour for THS. Should that prove too much weight for your delicate frame perhaps a mimosa and goat cheese quiche to drown your drama laden sorrows.

As her partner Amyers, through purchase and encouragement, could boost her will to improve, her belief in herself, her ability and him. So he drops a few bucks on her wishes. Even if her score doesn't improve all I see is a win/win. What do you see in your future other than my dominate skills surpassing your measly average?
Too much Absinthe will do that to ya. Just sayin'...

[Aslan]

Too much Absinthe will do that to ya. Just sayin'...

I'm gonna smoke a J and read it. Maybe it'll make more sense.

[samdasham]

Ka-PLOOP .......................................... BOOM!



Arr, thar be music to an old salt's ears. A sixteen pounder warning shot O'forty-two pins flyin' across the bow of the Asian Junk. Strike your colours, 'eave to and surrender now laddie. Ole' Capt'n Dasham will show mercy in kind. No honour be lost, from such a worthy adversary, through submission to me superiority.

But, should ye tack into the wind and scurry, as the flea bitten rat ye are, then ten-fold shall be thee misery. Neither the width nor breadth of the four corners can save your scurvy hide from misery and ultimately Davy Jones locker. You're awash on the lee shore and outgunned though momentarily pardoned by the shallow reef. Your only savior preventing this top of the line man-o-war from comin' about unleashing the wrath of me broadside.

Spare ye arsenal the carnage mate and grieve no more. Or, this frigate of fury shall cut across ye mizzenmast as a cutlass through a coconut.

[bowl1820]

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