How Do I Get The Heck Out Of Brooklyn?

[GeoLes]

I am returning from hip replacemnt surgery 4 months ago. I finally have a relaxed approach and am beginning to find a halfway decent lunge, but for the life of me, I can't seem to get the ball consistly to the right side of the rack (right-handed stoker). I do recognize that I often practice on non-league hours and weekends.

(I practice at a National franchise and they are very big on kiddie parties and recreational bowling on weekends. As a result lanes are frequently untreated for days contributing to the problem. But none-the less, I still seem to favor 1-2 pocket.)

I have tried moving left, Starting further forward, tucking the pinky (which did help), and closing the index finger to add length to the ball, but I consistenly cross Brooklyn side leaving either 5-pin or 6-10.

What am I missing? Other than consulting a bowling coach (in process) , How do I get a handle on this?

[Perrin]

Without changing balls it sounds like you have done everthing you can do... changing lines, changing hand postions, changing speed as much as you can.

one of the tricks I have tried in the past is to literally target a line to try to hit the 3-6 or 6-10 'pocket' just to see if I am subconsiously not throwing the line I intend on the first ball.

I have found when I get to the more extreme ends of conditions, very heavy oil or fried heads my muscle memory works against me.

Because I am trying to alter from my standard shot(A game) by too much. example trying to throw with ~20 rotation instead of my usual ~75 it will work for a bit then when I don't concentrate on it I'll throw with 40-45 because I am used to more rotation than I am trying to throw.

[RobLV1]

Having coached several bowlers who have returned from hip surgery, I have a strong suspicion that you have temporarily lost a whole lot of ball speed. I would suggest that you try using a ball with a higher rg and less surface, or even a lighter weight ball to help you to get it down the lane, until you are able to regain the ball speed that you had before your surgery. Good luck and keep at it. It will come back.

[Mudpuppy]

Sounds a lot to me like ball speed as well and maybe a little bit of angle

[MICHAEL]

We bowled a team last night that had a guy that threw a sweeping strike that hit the 1 and 2 pocket ALL NIGHT LONG! He might have hit the 1, 3 pocket by mistake a couple times! (two finger bowler, right handed)

I have never seen anything like it! He would at some points get a turkey, and even a hambone, but every time he did it was so hard to say,, (NICE SHOT LOL,, I would grind my teeth when saying the customary good shot!) I wanted to say, WHAT EVER, do you ever hit the fricken pocket? His average was around 165, but could get into the 200s!

His team would actually cheer each time,,, saying come on Brooklyn ,,,,, YEA!!!

ONCE we find out the solution to your problem, I am going to print it and stick it in his bag, before I GO CRAZY!!!

(we did beat them 3 out of 4, but they were close, it was a good team, a contender, he was their handicap bowler that would on occasion throw a high game somewhere in Brooklyn!! lol

[Perrin]

I agree on that note. Nothing more annoying than the team that gets lucky brooklyns or strikes through the nose and honestly believe they are throwing good shots.

[RobLV1]

This thread brings up a very interesting topic: what constitutes a good strike? I have recently changed my views on this subject as a result of bowling in an almost-scratch doubles league with my wife. At 155, she has what is by far the lowest average in the league. I asked her to bowl in it with me because I know that she needs to bowl with better bowlers if she wants to improve. Something that I figured out as a result of bowling this league with her, is that because she throws a 13 lb. bowling ball, she has to be absolutely perfect, going only high flush, to carry pocket hits. Because of the deflection of her 13 lb. ball, however, she carrys about 95% of her Brooklyn hits. Is that wrong? Not if it works! She also gets the extra added benefit of driving the bowlers on the other team that think that all strikes have to be perfect pocket hits, absolutely nuts as she strikes out in the 10th frame - all Brooklyn hits. As Wendy Macpherson told me years ago, "If you can get lined up to the point that your pulled shots carry Brooklyn, you've got it made."

Rob Mautner

[Perrin]

This thread brings up a very interesting topic: what constitutes a good strike? I have recently changed my views on this subject as a result of bowling in an almost-scratch doubles league with my wife. At 155, she has what is by far the lowest average in the league. I asked her to bowl in it with me because I know that she needs to bowl with better bowlers if she wants to improve. Something that I figured out as a result of bowling this league with her, is that because she throws a 13 lb. bowling ball, she has to be absolutely perfect, going only high flush, to carry pocket hits. Because of the deflection of her 13 lb. ball, however, she carrys about 95% of her Brooklyn hits. Is that wrong? Not if it works! She also gets the extra added benefit of driving the bowlers on the other team that think that all strikes have to be perfect pocket hits, absolutely nuts as she strikes out in the 10th frame - all Brooklyn hits. As Wendy Macpherson told me years ago, "If you can get lined up to the point that your pulled shots carry Brooklyn, you've got it made."

Rob Mautner


I don't have any issue with someone that plays the brooklyn.

But if in three shots you hit light 'mixer', brooklyn, high flush for a turkey and then complain when your fourth shot through the nose doesn't carry... that drives me bonkers.

[MICHAEL]

This thread brings up a very interesting topic: what constitutes a good strike? I have recently changed my views on this subject as a result of bowling in an almost-scratch doubles league with my wife. At 155, she has what is by far the lowest average in the league. I asked her to bowl in it with me because I know that she needs to bowl with better bowlers if she wants to improve. Something that I figured out as a result of bowling this league with her, is that because she throws a 13 lb. bowling ball, she has to be absolutely perfect, going only high flush, to carry pocket hits. Because of the deflection of her 13 lb. ball, however, she carrys about 95% of her Brooklyn hits. Is that wrong? Not if it works! She also gets the extra added benefit of driving the bowlers on the other team that think that all strikes have to be perfect pocket hits, absolutely nuts as she strikes out in the 10th frame - all Brooklyn hits. As Wendy Macpherson told me years ago, "If you can get lined up to the point that your pulled shots carry Brooklyn, you've got it made."

Rob Mautner

WOW,,, all I can say is,,,, BEAM ME UP SCOTTY, I am going Brooklyn, Bonkers down here!! Last night the team I mention in a previous commit, (I almost passed out from, WTF, 4 in a role!!!) And his team mates are all encouraging him on, I couldn't slap his hand and give him the NICE SHOT common practice..... I .... I had to get up and go anywhere but where I was. This guy is early 30s in good condition, healthy, NO reason for not hitting the pocket! Its not like his average is high, its about 175 or so!

[tccstudent]

As Wendy Macpherson told me years ago, "If you can get lined up to the point that your pulled shots carry Brooklyn, you've got it made."

Rob Mautner
Thats what I love about playing straight up the 5 if I pull it normally you will see a brooklyn

Iceman how bout shooting a 675 series and only hitting pocket 3 times all night. I did that a few months ago.

[josheaton16]

My mom is about like you tcc. She plays straight up the boards and has a lot of trouble moving deep and swinging it out. So sometimes she'll actually target brooklyn. Earlier this year she bowled a 255, had 9 strikes, all brooklyn. And her three non strikes were either on her own side and left a ten pin or through the nose. Low ball speed as well so those brooklyn shots just ride ride down the front of the pins and sweep the rest out. Sometimes brooklyn is a good thing!!!

[tccstudent]

I can move left and throw that big sweeping hook I just prefer the reaction I get from playing straighter plus I have a ball speed that is measured by light years and not MPH

[striker12]

i love it when my ball goes brooklyn main reason why is because i seem to always get a strike when it happens but can never repeat the shot because when i hit pocket i get robbed just like last Saturday.

but when i don't want to hit brooklyn the thing i do is depending where i'm throwing from witch is normally standing on 20 crossing 14 board and pushing out but if i was going brooklyn and want to hit the pocket the thing i would be is i would move 3 - 5 boards left and aim at the middle arrow and come up because the ball to take alot of the hook out of the ball and play a tight line witch aiming there should push the ball out close to the 10-13 board and the ball will hit the pocket ( i got a high rev rate can't really check it because my revs are off the sheet)

[Mudpuppy]

I am ok with someone going Brooklyn. If they line up the shot and it works great. What I am not ok with and this was an actual event that happened. I got a brand new ball - can't remember which one but I hadn't thrown it yet. I show up to my normal league night. This clown shows up and throws 8 in a row all completely lucky with a house ball and is bragging up and down. At the time I had about a 185 average and I couldn't hit a shot to save my life. By the end of the night I was so pissed I literally threw my new ball in the trash can. I woke up the next day and thought why did I do that? That was when I decided I needed to control my temper / anger when bowling and it has helped my game tremendously. I laugh about it now but at the time it hurt to shell out another $250 for a new ball the next day. Now I am pretty good with keeping my anger in check with the occasional cussing or getting mad about shooting bad.

[mc_runner]

I don't mind brooklyn, or people congratulating someone who got one - a strike is a strike and helps the team. What bugs me is when we are bowling someone with a low average and they end up with 3 or 4 in a row straight through the head pin (bonus if its a house ball and they complain when they finally miss one).

[MICHAEL]

The guy I am talking about was not a great bowler, but had this sweeping first ball, that sometimes hit the pocket, (it was not like he was truing to go broken), BUT MOST of the time would slide across the one pin and get a number of strikes with his miss)
Don't get me wrong he didn't have a high average at all, but would on occasion get a 200 plus with his two finger, bowling style.
He also had problems with spares,,,, "IF he didn't get that pocket strike, or sweeping across Brooklyn strike he was in trouble!

I don't have a problem with this guy, he actually seems to be a nice guy, and I will get to the point where his unique style of lucky bowling doesn't case eye pain!! (( I will just need to take medication before bowling them until that happens!!.)))

[MICHAEL]

Mr Perfect,,, grrrrrrrrrrrr...... Mr. Lucky Strikes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hA_aZBz3g

[J Anderson]

Mr Perfect,,, grrrrrrrrrrrr...... Mr. Lucky Strikes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hA_aZBz3g

Don't know how to get out of Brooklyn but here's a guy who knows how to get out of Denver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WWHdBuOC6Q

[tccstudent]

Brooklyn, NY
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1. Start out going west on Joralemon St.Map
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2. Take the 1st right onto Court St.Map
United States Postal Service is on the corner
If you reach Clinton St you've gone about 0.1 miles too far
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3. Turn slight left onto Cadman Plz W.Map
Duane Reade is on the left
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4. Turn right onto Tillary St.Map
Tillary St is just past Johnson St
If you reach Clark St you've gone a little too far
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5. Turn left onto Flatbush Ave Ext.Map
Flatbush Ave Ext is just past Bridge St
Midtown Florist & Greenhouse is on the corner
Timed turn restriction: Mon-Fri 6:00 AM to 10:00 AM
If you reach Gold St you've gone a little too far
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6. Flatbush Ave Ext becomes Manhattan Bridge.Map
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7. Turn left onto Canal St.Map
Professional Business Institute is on the corner
If you are on Chrystie St and reach Hester St you've gone a little too far
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8. Turn right onto Hudson St / Holland Tunnel. Continue to follow Holland Tunnel (Crossing into New Jersey).Map
Holland Tunnel is 0.1 miles past Varick St
Trinity Church is on the corner
If you are on Canal St and reach Watts St you've gone a little too far
1.9 Mi
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9. Holland Tunnel becomes 14th St.Map

[Mudpuppy]

Brooklyn, NY
Download Free App
1. Start out going west on Joralemon St.Map
0.02 Mi
0.02 Mi Total
2. Take the 1st right onto Court St.Map
United States Postal Service is on the corner
If you reach Clinton St you've gone about 0.1 miles too far
0.09 Mi
0.1 Mi Total
3. Turn slight left onto Cadman Plz W.Map
Duane Reade is on the left
0.2 Mi
0.3 Mi Total
4. Turn right onto Tillary St.Map
Tillary St is just past Johnson St
If you reach Clark St you've gone a little too far
0.4 Mi
0.6 Mi Total
5. Turn left onto Flatbush Ave Ext.Map
Flatbush Ave Ext is just past Bridge St
Midtown Florist & Greenhouse is on the corner
Timed turn restriction: Mon-Fri 6:00 AM to 10:00 AM
If you reach Gold St you've gone a little too far
0.2 Mi
0.8 Mi Total
6. Flatbush Ave Ext becomes Manhattan Bridge.Map
1.3 Mi
2.1 Mi Total
7. Turn left onto Canal St.Map
Professional Business Institute is on the corner
If you are on Chrystie St and reach Hester St you've gone a little too far
0.9 Mi
3.0 Mi Total
8. Turn right onto Hudson St / Holland Tunnel. Continue to follow Holland Tunnel (Crossing into New Jersey).Map
Holland Tunnel is 0.1 miles past Varick St
Trinity Church is on the corner
If you are on Canal St and reach Watts St you've gone a little too far
1.9 Mi
4.9 Mi Total
9. Holland Tunnel becomes 14th St.Map

This, lol

Always one in the crowd. I guess that is the literal way to get out of brooklyn.

On any given league night I typically throw a brooklyn or 2 - usually after my 4th or 5th beer when I lose focus.

[tccstudent]

i gave up drinking a long time ago so I cant blame the beer when i go brooklyn it generally just cause I tugged it.

[Mudpuppy]

Never quit quitting T. Remember only users lose drugs.